Do what I did.
Go buy the "Book of the Sub-Genius," and leave it on the kitchen table, or in the bathroom:
Sugar Shane
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Leaving jw propaganda all around the house, what to do?
by Crazyguy inthe wife leaves it all around, not sure if this is by design i don't think so since the return to jah brochure was never left out.
it drives me a bit nuts but haven't done anything about it.
looking for ideas on what i should do?
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Worldwatch Institute vs Watching the World
by berrygerry inpart of the "last days" in the bible teach book indicates that : "a report from the worldwatch institute states: “three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century ad to 1899.” more than 100 million people have died as a result of wars since 1914.
"that seems to be quite the statement, given mankind's history of war, which, for the most part, seems to have only dimished since 1945.fact-checking that quote shows that, first of all, it is not a quote by the worldwatch institute, but is actually a paper written by one of its contributors (michael renner) in 1999.
( http://www.worldwatch.org/system/files/wp146.pdf ) additionally, that paper references a table (done by a different researcher) that indicates that the 20th century not only has the most war-related deaths, but far and away the greatest ratio of deaths at 44.4 per 1,000 population.
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Sugar Shane
Just show the J-dubs THIS, whenever they quote something about 20th century wars.
This should shut em up...for a while, anyway:
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The Watchtower Org will die.
by Freeandclear ini was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?
etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.
i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.
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Sugar Shane
To illustrate my earlier point, here are two screen shots, based on a Google News search.
This was from a search under the words 'Jehovah's Witness:'
This result is from the term 'Methodist Church:'
See a difference? I just chose 'METHODIST' randomly. You'd probably get a similar result from 'Nazarene,' or 'Lutheran.' Anyway, I don't see how anyone, in THIS day and age of instant information, in the Western world, could fall for such a twisted religion/cult as the JWs. Not saying the Methodists are all saints, but JUST LOOK AT THE F-ING DIFFERENCE between those search results!!
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Spotlight won Best Film
by Sugar Shane induring the post-awards interview, the director said that the story is not over.
it's still ongoing.
could this have been a vieled jab at jws, and/or a hint at a spotlight part 2?
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During the post-awards interview, the director said that the story is not over. It's still ongoing. Could this have been a vieled jab at JWs, and/or a hint at a Spotlight Part 2? -
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The Watchtower Org will die.
by Freeandclear ini was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?
etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.
i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.
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Sugar Shane
As for the younger JWs being more IT savvy, there is no doubt. But, imagine you are a householder, and you simply 'Google' the term 'Jehovah's Witness.' Don't type 'abuse,' or 'lawsuits,' just 'Jehovah's Witness.' Then, click the Google "News" icon. Try it, right now...
...got it? See the results? They are from actual news outlets, not random 'apostates.' Now ask yourself, as a non-JW householder, why would ANYONE in their right mind be attracted to this group? With headlines like "Groomed Girl for Sex," or "Pedophile Cover-up," or "JW Elder Arrested for Abuse," I would RUN, not walk away from JWs at my door, or at the outdoor carts!! I'd also give them a piece of my mind before slamming the door in their smug faces.
I think the JW.ORG IT department, is mostly impressive to those who are already in, and that it will continue this way. The very fact that sites like THIS one are checked out by so many JW 'lurkers' speaks volumes. Social media has more than 'leveled the playing field.' And, as I mentioned, only the most gullible, and uninformed Non-JW would be attracted to this cult.
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The Watchtower Org will die.
by Freeandclear ini was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?
etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.
i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.
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Sugar Shane
From the outside looking in, as a non-JW, I can understand why many ex-JWs are not convinced the downfall will happen soon, if at all.
Consider this, however: the Watchtower no longer controls the message. In fact, the message (from the outside world) controls them. Why else would they become so reactive? Why else would the GB make those ridiculous broadcasts, which show them on the defensive?
Skedaddle is spot on, I think.
Moore's law was brought up. A good parallel might be the industrial revolution. Look the effects of it, in the span of a century, compared to the slow technological progress in the centuries leading up to it. The same thing is now happening with the information age: look at how much the 'borg' has changed in the past decade, compared to the 100 years prior. Who would've thought, back in...1982, that the GB would become money-begging tele-evangalists, fleecing money from their churches (halls), being grilled in front of judges for child abuse, cutting their once reknown publishing empire, closing branches, cutting the Bethel workers....all within a decade, and all coinciding with the seemingly exponential spread of information technology.
You might say, "well, the shakers & amish are still around, and so the JWs will still continue." To which I say, "agreed." Sure, they might endure in small, isolated pockets here and there. They might become a splintered fringe-cult. But even THAT outcome would be desirable IMO. They might not go extinct, but they'd certainly end up on the endangered species list.
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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Sugar Shane
The feds can read erased hard-drives...but, time is of the essence. They need to get a warrant and move in. -
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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Sugar Shane
I'm surprised fisherman hasn't posted yet!
Any bets on when he'll pop up on the thread? I know he can't hold back much longer--probably about to blow a gasket.
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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Sugar Shane
Right you are Poopie. Add to that, the Carholics don't use the confessional as an enforcement tool to kick people out, as the JWs do. So the statement by the elders, that both victim and perp approached them privately, to seek counsel, is such a boldface lie.
I'm quite certain that the Shepard of the Flock book contains this language, which would be self-incriminating, IMO.
I'd assume the judge, or the AG in the Delaware case have access to the 'Flock' book and other materials. If not, someone needs to email them a copy ASAP, along with references to the DF procedures.
That seemed to be the case with the ARC: people submitting materials & info to Mr. Young and McClellan while the hearings were in progress. The email is mightier than the sword.
I'd do it myself, but I'm pretty busy working this weekend. Plus, as a non-JW, I don't have the knowledge of that book as some of you do.
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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Sugar Shane
That's the one in which the Delaware Attorney General went after the JWs! Wow. Serious shite!
